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Talking Behind My Back

LOL! I had no idea this was going on. I just happened to notice I had 8 hits from this same referrer. For those of you who don’t want to follow the link this is a thread written by an Anti-Twilight group at SodaHead regarding my On Vampire Lore post. This post by Christine was particularly vexing to me:

I repsect the opinoin. But the whole time I kept saying to myself, “But vampires aren’t real”
and notice how she didn’t touch the subject that REAL vampires simply DO NOT sparkle in the sunlight! I’m almost positive no other vampire story or movie ever has. And that truly is degrading to the religion.

Yeah, I tried to look at this with an open mind, but this really didn’t have an effect on me anyway.

I of course have questions. Why didn’t they post on my blog? I have allowed posts from outside WordPress. Does Christine believe vampires real or not? Religion? I wonder if Christine was talking about Twilight or my post when she said she tried to look on it with an open mind and that it had no effect. Either way it had enough of an effect to cause her to write on an anti-Twilight forum.

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September 6, 2009 Posted by | Twi-blogs, Twilight, Twilighters | , , , , , , | 5 Comments

On Vampire Lore

I read a lot online about how Stephenie Meyer’s Twilight sucks because it goes against vampire canon. I have to wonder how much the people who say this actually know about vampire lore. I’ve read lots of books and seen lots of movies. Just how many, I have no idea. Vampires have been a favorite of mine for as long as I can remember. I’ve never liked the ugly, pure evil, demonic, Nosferatu types. Yep, it’s a demon. Clearly we’re not letting that one in. Stake it if you can. A little too straight forward and blunt for me. I’m not a fan of horror for horror’s sake. For me it’s always been about the sexy ones. That’s where the true terror is. Demons who are good-looking, to whom you might be attracted, with whom you might be friends, who might just kill you, now that’s scary to me. It gives me more to think about. There just tends to be more story there.

Already we are talking about two very different types of vampires. How can canon reconcile this? To understand this I think you have to understand a bit about the history of vampire lore.

In the beginning, vampires were generally undead, walking corpses bent on stealing your life force, usually blood. Most cultures have some form of vampire legend. According to Wikipedia the term vampire did not become popular until the early 18th Century though. At that time there was an increase in vampire superstition in Western Europe from places in Eastern Europe where vampire legends were frequent, such as The Balkans.

Different traditions say different things. The vampire might be a soul not at rest who rises from the grave to cause mischief. It might be a person who made a pact with a sorcerer or witch, trading their soul for immortality or some such thing. It might also be the sorcerer or witch him- or herself. This is what people really thought back in the day. It is largely thought that because graves weren’t marked incredibly well that when bodies were exposed, either through the digging of the new grave or by animals digging, people thought they were seeing vampires who had left their graves. During decomposition hair and nails appear to grow. It’s really just the skin receding, but it gives the appearance of growth, giving anyone not educated in these matters thoughts of the ‘living dead’. Furthermore, gases bloating the body and fluids escaping through the mouth give the impression of the belly being full, having feasted on flesh or blood. Worse yet, the death shroud, being exposed to these fluids, would have been eaten by microbes first, giving the appearance that the corpse itself ate the shroud.

Pretty gruesome stuff, huh? At least it makes sense how we got the whole image of vampires as ugly demons. What about the sexy vampire though? Where does that come from?

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July 13, 2009 Posted by | Essays, Stephenie Meyer, Twilight, Twilighters | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 13 Comments

FMCG: Chapter 12

It is perhaps fitting that my old friend Benjamin Wheeler begins his thoughts on Chapter 12: Balancing with, “Oh, Twilight, I’ve missed you. Since our last time together I’ve thought about you a lot, watched the movie based on you, cringed at the movie based on you, made fun of the movie based on you. And all of this made my more excited to get back to you, and finally, this windy afternoon, I have.” Benjamin was away for a while when real life called. I have been away too. My brain was too crammed with my new job and new schedule that I haven’t had time to ponder much. Lately, if I’ve had any blog time I’ve spent it over at Letters To Twilight, for the laughs. I have missed Twilight.

I’m sure that anyone who was following this thread is long gone, but I’ll continue on at whatever pace I can manage. My apologies to anyone who is annoyed that I could not keep up. In case you have forgotten the rules, go read his article and then come back for some discussion with me.

I’m with you on the movie, Benjamin. We could spend a lot of blog time on the various levels of horrible there.

We get some suggestion that Edward is comfortable, both ethically and practically, with breaking in Bella’s house. Instead of Bella walking home, Edward tells her (not offers to, mind you) that he will go to her house and retrieve her truck, which will be in the parking lot when she gets out of school. Bella notes that the key “was in the pocket of a pair of jeans I wore Wednesday, under a pile of clothes in the laundry room” (243). This is followed with a rather nonchalant, “Even if he broke into my house, or whatever he was planning, he’d never find it” (243). Have we actually reached so quickly the point in the story at which Bella is okay with Edward breaking into her house without her permission? It seems so.

I didn’t consider it B & E by this point either. Edward had been doing it for months, and Bella and I had had time to adjust to that. Besides, to me it was more like Edward trying to make up for inconveniencing Bella and showing off for her, at the same time. It made Edward more of a mystery to Bella, so win for him.

What really disturbed me about this was that Bella never refers to “keys”. She only ever says her “key”. She carries around her single car key and uses a house key kept under the eave. She never mentions a key ring or a keychain. I wondered why Stephenie Meyer wrote it like this. It’s like Bella considers herself a guest in Charlie’s house even though she comes in an takes charge. I suppose coming in part way through Junior year with, presumably, no intention of staying much past graduation, she must have considered herself a houseguest and endeavored to make her presence minimal.

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June 24, 2009 Posted by | Stephenie Meyer, Twi-blogs, Twilight | , , , , , , , , , , , | 3 Comments

The Trailer

Caroolee7 was the first one to come up on YouTube, so I grabbed this there.

It gives me hope.

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June 2, 2009 Posted by | Actors, Bella Swan, Edward Cullen, Kristen Stewart, New Moon, Robert Pattinson, Twi-Media, Twilighters | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

FMCG: Chapter 10

Feminist Male College Graduate, Benjamin Wheeler, is as completed Chapter 10: Interrogations.  This was a fun one for many Twilight fans. It held scenes which many of us missed in the movie, such as when Edward shows up at Bella’s in the morning to offer her a ride and a jacket, thus showing us that he’s not only thinking of her safety, but, we can guess, her comfort. Edward and Bella sort of come out of the closet that there might be something going on between them. Go see what Benjamin has to say and then come back for some discussion, if you will.

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May 14, 2009 Posted by | Bella Swan, Edward Cullen, Twi-blogs, Twilight, Uncategorized | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 2 Comments

Feminist Male College Graduate: Chapter 9

Benjamin Wheeler has now blogged about Chapter 9: Theory. I’ve given up hope of seeing a Unicorn in the making. I don’t think it’s going well. Go check it out and then come back for the discussion.

So, my spider-senses tell me that this is the chapter in which I’m supposed to feel the warm-fuzzies and excitement over the fact that Bella and Edward have finally shut up and have actually announced, more or less, that they want each other.

Yes, warm-fuzzies and excitement would pretty much cover it. If you’re not feeling it, I question why you are continuing to read. I get that you’re probably curious about why everyone has jumped on the Twilight bandwagon. I see from the tweets on your blog that you view it as a bandwagon. I look at it as more of word of mouth. Let me explain how I found Twilight. I was on a business trip last summer and one of the guys from my office, I noticed, was pulling out a book every chance he got. At the airport, on the shuttle busses, during our downtime, everywhere possible. I finally had to break my rule about interrupting other people’s public reading to ask him what was so good in there that he couldn’t join us out here. He told me it was a story about young love and vampires. It was a four day business trip that was packed with activities. He brought both Twilight and New Moon, and finished them both. Immediately following that trip I travelled to my family reunion. My cousin, knowing my tastes tend toward the geeky, said, “You’ve read Twilight, right?” Her tone suggested she assumed I had. She was so excited she had read it before me and that she got to be the one to introduce it to me. She told me a similar bit about young love and vampires. I asked her if New Moon was one of the books because that was the title I remembered my co-worker reading. She told me it was. I decided I would read it immediately upon my return home, which I did.

So you see, word of mouth got me to read the books. People who knew me suggested them to me as material I would enjoy. It was not in any way jumping on the bandwagon. When my co-workers started seeing me reading these books obsessively they were curious. I told them a little about it, and they decided they might like it. They picked it up. From there their friends started reading. Of all  the people I know who have read Twilight you are the only one who picked it up with any bandwagon in mind. You’re the only one I know of who is reading it because everyone else is. No judgement here. I just find that fascinating.

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May 11, 2009 Posted by | Uncategorized | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 13 Comments

Feminist Male College Graduate: Chapter 3

My friend Benjamin Wheeler has been busy. He’s read Chapters 3 & 4 of Twilight while I was off gaming this weekend. I’ll try to catch up as succinctly as possible.

Part of the reason I wanted to read this book was to see if my perspective as a man would offer a different reading than the women I’ve spoken with who’ve read the book have had.

Part of the reason? What were you other reasons? Just curious. Are you a vampire fan? Is it because everyone’s reading it and you want to see what the fuss is about? Is it because everyone’s reading it and you don’t want to be left out? Did your girl say, “Twilight has changed my life forever and you will never understand me again if you don’t read it.”? Again, just curious. My Twi-friends and I have been wondering what goes into the creation of a Unicorn. Many would love to turn their husbands and boyfriends.

Now, I’m still very early in the book, but I’m finding myself actually liking Bella, both as a character and as a narrator, but, oh God, I cannot stand this Edward guy.

Good, I’m glad you’re liking Bella more. I’m reading The Dresden Files right now. I’m on Book 4 and have decided I don’t like Dresden very much. These books are also told in the first person. It’s miserable being in the head of someone you don’t really like. Thank goodness a new Sookie Stackhouse book comes out Tuesday, and I can go to my safe place. As for Edward, I can’t help you out there. I imagine you love him at times, hate him at others. Well, really all the characters try you patience at times. They’re really wonderfully flawed, the lot of them.

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May 3, 2009 Posted by | Bella Swan, Edward Cullen, Essays, Midnight Sun, Stephenie Meyer, Twi-blogs, Twilight | , , , , , , , , , | 4 Comments

Feminist Male College Graduate: Chapter 2

This is fun. Mr. Benjamin Wheeler has finished Chapter 2 of Twilight and has graciously blogged about it already.  I don’t know if there will be much room for discussion on my part this chapter as I agree with just about everything here. Let’s see how it goes. Sometimes I surprise myself. I am a wordy girl after all.

I think a tempting way to read this is with Charlie filling the role of the undomesticated male, and Bella filling the role of the domesticated woman, but I think that’s unnecessarily reductive.

I agree with you here; it is tempting. I think that is a huge reason why so many people are so willing to label The Twilight Saga as sexist, or as having set the feminist movement back decades. The sad part about that for me is that these people seem to think that being a housewife or stay-at-home mom is a bad thing. Personally, I think the feminist movement is about having choices, options. If it’s your choice to stay at home, then great. You have weighed the options for yourself and your family, and presumably came to the conclusion that staying home was the best choice. It was not having a choice that was the problem that started the movement, I believe. In other words, it wasn’t the belief that every woman should be in the workplace with men, but rather the belief that women should be allowed to work on equal footing with men.

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April 30, 2009 Posted by | Bella Swan, Stephenie Meyer, Twi-blogs, Twilight, Uncategorized | , , , , , , , | 2 Comments

Channing Tatum as Riley

Channing Tatum To Eclipse Twilight?

Channing Tatum To Eclipse Twilight?
Channing Tatum is being touted as bad-boy vampire Riley in Eclipse, the third in Stephenie Meyer’s four-book Twilight series.DO YOU THINK Channing would make a good vampire — YAY or NAY?

 

 

 

 

“There’s a very big battle at the end with Riley, and I think Channing would do that so well,” Twilight and New Moon screenwriter Melissa Rosenberg, who is currently writing the Eclipse script, tells E!’s Marc Malkin. “And there are some complexities to that character. He really is tragic. He’s a puppet for Victoria [bad-girl vampire played by Rachelle Lefevre]. So he has to break your heart a little bit at the end when he realizes that she doesn’t want him. Channing could do that beautifully.”

The 29-year-old actor has his new flick, Fighting, in theaters NOW.

 I say YAY (OK so I picked him for Felix, but YAY someone else is thinking he’d make a good vampire)!

April 29, 2009 Posted by | Actors, Eclipse, Stephenie Meyer, Twilight | , , , , , , , , , , | 3 Comments

New Moon Casting Video

This is the first updated casting video for New Moon that I’ve found. Enjoy, I’m sure there will be more to follow.

(Thanks Johanne6699 for the vid)

April 18, 2009 Posted by | Actors, Bella Swan, Kristen Stewart, New Moon, Robert Pattinson, Twi-Media, Uncategorized | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment